Hoern,

I am having an issue with moderator Sigfried. He has flamed and harassed me as a player. Posts that were witnessed by other players as noninflammatory he is deleting. While mailing me constantly in private. I finally posted to stop harassing and flaming me. Of which he again deletes, but leaves his own harassment and flames.
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Please gain control of your Mod to respectable levels. Not including threatening other players in public or abusing them with his powers. Sigried I am taking SS's of all these posts you keep deleting. Keep it up!

May

It's your right as player, but the posts was not on the subject, but an attack to the moderator.
I'm sorry, but you'll have to calm down and reconsider your attitude.

The post was witnessed by others, and was completely on topic! There was no attack to the moderator, except to ask him to stop threatening players! Please do stop harassing me. Seriously stop deleting all my post, and stop mailing me bringing KH into this. No one did but you!

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The administrator has disabled public write access.
Only logged in / registered users
are allowed to contribute to the forum.

He banned me from being able to post in Players as Players... part of my job voted in... He has gone muy loco!

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Reported to Hoern. There was NO flaming in that post you deleted. As witnessed by other players. The ooc parts you had problem with were game mechanics. Which are a central part of the compromise in rp. They shouldn’t be considered so much ooc as long as it isn’t directed ooc.
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"Myths and Legends.... tales without boundaries" as the title suggest is a place for tales who won’t fit with the more strict RP rules of the boards like "Warriors" - "Nations" and so.
Talking about some rules in OOC terms seems to me more appropriate to Players ask Players but I may be wrong and you don’t have to agree with me.
It was the best way I could help, in order to keep the board clean and let the story continue without too much interference or just cutting down by deleting the topic.
If you think I was wrong, let me know, but stop arguing and flaming on the board, that won’t help anybody, not myself doing my job better, nor the other players with a bad atmosphere.

Thank you,
Sigfried

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Re: Re: Re: Board
There is no revenge from other servers. Except by you.
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It seems I have to message Hoern too if you won’t calm down and keep insulting me.
I’m only doing my job to protect other players from a bad atmosphere.
I will have to ask you again to stop what are you doing, taking revenge from other servers, it won’t work.
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Says the king of Flames? You are right I will message Hoern, as my complaints to the other censors went ignored! As well as you are deleting posts! This should never be done.
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Flames are not allowed on this board. Tone down your voice, please!
if you have an issue, message Hoern and the moderators.


Regards,
Sigfried

Who in the world do you think you are Sigfried? You have nerve to run around threatening people, and insulting them ooc. Then when no ooc attack or flaming was present you make it up?

Sigfried wrote:

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This is arguing for the sake of arguing.. What has to do Caesar title you accept it with the rest? What has to do slavery with Senators?
US use the title of Senators, are you ashamed?
What has Ildico who express her options, other than yours with this?
The term of Equites was not appropriate.
You says wiki is not accurate and now you say that all your research was based on wiki? Nice..

Your opinion was noted.
If you have more historical based arguments, put it here, if not, stop flaming, because it won't work that way on this board.

It's usual when you quote or just mention an idea, to put the source next to it or put the sources at the end of your post.
Oh, did you study the reactions and the feelings of all the players now? Why do you think you're the voice of all the players?
Tone down your voice, please!

Nothing but pure ooc attacking my country of origin... which I never disclosed! Not here or any where! Pure flaming from a MOD! point one!

Sigfried wrote:

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May wrote:

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Head of Tribe = Caesar - Yes
Ministers = Consul - yes
Head of a Shire = Senator - no
Warrior = Civis - no

"I say yes to the first two. Allowing for nation deference, but no to the second two for game unity. New players will get confused enough by the different top two of all nations. I have to agree Head of shire should change, but to make it senator sounds more important than those who run the province. Perhaps another more suitable name can be found? Landowners or Tenants perhaps?"
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The terms are the ones frequently and usually used in Rome (see vikipedia). You make a confusion: there isn't any shire term in AE, only village and province and Senators are the head of the provinces!
About warriors, i don't see how much will improve to name them "vulgus" instead of "Civis".
it's Romans decision after all and only historical arguments can change this.
I don't see any contradiction in Ildico proposal, the terms are appropriate and Civis < Senators < Consuls < Caesar.
Also they seems to have election and organizational rules based on this structure.

Yet another flame! Bad Mod bad!

Sigfried wrote:

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I'm sorry that you take it this way, my intention was to put the things in order, not to single you out in any way, bold or not.
It was an open debate and I replied in the same topic, it wasn't an error to correct as mod, it was my opinion as player.
Btw, it wasn't a simple writer error, you just confuse things.
May wrote:

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I have to agree Head of shire should change, but to make it senator sounds more important than those who run the province.

Senators doesn't @sound more important than those who run the provinces", Senators run the provinces!
I'll explain to you why Equites and Vulgus are not appropriate:
Equites was the term for the roman soldiers who can use a horse, nothing related with a governor of the province, like Senators was.
Vulgus was all the roman citizens, even liberated slaves with only their clothes in possession!
Warriors in AE have a land, a village in possession and the term is a bit pejorative. If I'll be roman, certainly I won't like to be called "vulgus"
We will be grateful if you would put some links from your vast research, that we can check ourselves and understand better your profound ideas next time!

According to Savigny, the notion of civis and civitas had its origin in the union of the patricii and the plebes as one estate.

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The word civitas is frequently used by the Roman writers to express the condition of a Roman citizen, as distinguished from that of other persons not Roman citizens

William Smith, D.C.L., LL.D.:
A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities, John Murray, London, 1875.

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As the highest representation of the ruling Patrician class the Senators distinguished themselves from the rest of society in a number of ways apart from their extreme wealth. This was particularly necessary for them as considerable numbers of Plebeians and Liberti managed to amass considerable fortunes of their own.

The tunics and togas they wore special to persons of the highest rank. The tunics had a "clavus", a purple stripe down the middle. The togas they wore were called the Praetexta. These togas were regarded as sacred and had a purple stripe round the edge. On their shoes they wore an ivory half moon.

Senators also had a right to the best seating at public displays next to members of the Priesthood, the Vestals, and the ruling King, Consuls or Emperor and entourage.

Perhaps most importantly Senators could hope to greater legal leniency and the severe penalties which might be applied to the common mass would probably be waived and transformed into a voluntary exile.

Membership of the Senatorial class was dependent on a degree of wealth but progression through the various ranks within that class also required political ability and connections.

To put it simply for you to understand: what is the name of the ones who run the states in US?
Senators or Equites? Imagine that the name come from the Senators of the Old Rome.

I specify exactly why I made the error, and you flame me more. Not accepting unless my error was defined how you wanted it! Again announcing my ooc country of origin... as if I am a simpleton? Again shown you didn't know what you were talking about, and you do not like it! So you say my posts are flames, and begin deleting them? When they were no flames! Back off Sigfried, and stop banning me from forums I am allowed! It is you who should be banned for player abuse!

There was NO ONE flaming but this mod. Arguing the decision of this council because it wasn't what he wanted. You have a bone to pick with me from KH fine, but I left that back on KH. It is obvious to the entire world you did not. Leave me alone Sigfried! Moderate yourself, and you as player, and mod have gone over board.

This game already have lower player lives, and more will leave with me. Is that your wish to kill the game? Because you can't distinguish between right and wrong?

This is to show that he is bringing KH to AE after May and I had posted a thread about our 6 month anniversary.




sender:
Sigfried
(Teutons)


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2010-05-01 22:18:06 hello
the family reunited again?
I wish you good luck.

Meaning that May and I have rejoined together since we are together in KH.



Why is he doing that I am curious? Most of the stuff I have seen by Sigfried ties back to KH. Sigfried....please keep KH over at KH and AE at AE and thats it.

I think Sigfried is doing his job properly and you're the one who must control yourself, stop insulting and attacking him.
I expect more decency from another girl, not get hysterical or make comments like he is a dog:

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Yet another flame! Bad Mod bad!

It's obvious you start with flames when he contradict you, be he was right, not you.

"Ah were you there? Did you see what started all of this?"

maybe you should be banned.. he's such a nice guy, always willing to help
obviously you don't know nothing about him
this is the gretest game I ever had!

WHY YOU KEEP INSULTING HIM??

:rolls" to cute... Maybe if he hadn't unjustly attacked me for over three hours? Told lies? Flamed, and lied more? Unjustly deleted posts lying about content? Edited other posts to say what wasn't there? Again another one of his "people" coming to speak on what they didn't see? I can assume you were present for the original acts as well? NO? Good note this letter was addressed to Hoern. Unless you have something to the actual events, witnessed them, please do stop player bashing.

As well please do stop over exaggerating. I have yet to say a darn thing about him today, but he sure called "his people" in.

you start to offend everybody now.. the only people I saw unjustly attack, flamed and interpret as you like
everything is YOU!
who gives you the right to offend Sigfried because he was against your stupid proposal?
you're the only one player bashing here and definitely YOU SHOULD BE BANNED
over exaggerating is waht you did all the time
YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOURSELF??
I read the topic without your offending and silly comments and must say Sigfried had a point there.
AGAIN WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO OFFEND PEOPLE LIKE THIS??